Episode # 328 Treyce Montoya
Natalie: Hi Everyone. My name is Natalie Ledwell and this is the Inspiration Show. And today, I have a very super interesting show for you. I have someone on the show, an expert, who is going to tell us how our handwriting can actually influence our life. And how by changing our handwriting, it can positively influence our life. So, I would like you to help me in joining our show, Treyce Montoya. How are you Treyce?
Treyce: Great, Natalie. Thanks so much for having me.
N: It’s an absolute pleasure of having you and I am so interested to get into this subject with you, because not only do you have, you have been doing this work for quite sometime but you have some incredible results that you have been able to measure along the way as well. So, why don’t we start at first of all with your story and your background on how you got into doing this type of work?
T: Well, I was a civilian police started in kindergarten, beat up and you know, every day was, even started very young, I was, I don’t want to wake up another day and go to school and deal with being bullied and then at home, I was severely abused in every way, shape, form you could think of with alcoholic parents, and I was the only child. So, my father had military time and met a man named Charles Saw, who lived in San Francisco at that time. He had ran a handwriting analysis’ school, and this was back in the 60s. And so, he started coming over to my father’s house, we were living in Tuson at that time, and would try to talk to my father about how handwriting analysis work, but my father was extremely not interested but would pacify him to a certain extent. Where here I am, a little mini nerd, and I want to learn everything about it. So, to make the story short, my mother’s birthday present was to start learning forensic handwriting analysis, age appropriately, and I studied with him very closely until, I started writing in high school when I went into the air force and I ended up being certified and I spent my career path ever since. So for 27 years professionally, I’ve done this internationally.
N: Right. So when you say forensic handwriting, so how were you using this knowledge in the beginning?
T: Well, I started, what happened was he had some businesses, old clients, he had come down with cancer, what he did was he introduced me as his replacement. So, I actually walked into a career in my 20s. It was a career field which was mostly men, obviously, and mostly men in the line of law enforcement field and kind of like, why am I going to listen to a 20-year old female about something that we don’t even necessarily believe in, something like handwriting analysis. And so, I had my own battle with that trying to get myself started but most of that time for 27 years, I’ve been working on law enforcement training all around the world and then I opened up training human resources, training probation, parole, other correctional facilities, mental health and then the general public got into it. So I travel the world doing all that training and also working on case work and I worked on private, criminal mind episodes, stuff like that, very interesting work but my passion was not in the forensic side but it was in the mental health side and handwriting related.
N: So what is it that we can tell, that you can tell from someone’s handwriting? What can you tell about a person?
T: I’ll say a couple of words. When I look at that, I see hundreds of personality traits flying at me. Going back to that individual’s age of approximately 3 years old, so I have to, I had to train my brain to only pick and choose what I think that person needs, I guess what I instinctively feel that person needs to hear or know about at the time things may be blocking their happiness or their success or their goals or what have you. So I can see things, you know, such as sexual abuse, such as anger, resentment. I can even timeline it back to where these things occurred or when these things occurred. So people can be aware. It’s not that we can go back and change what happened but we don’t have to let those significant experiences trigger us and control us, and that’s what my program is about. It’s taking away the power that the past holds over us and that we drive along day-to-day into our future and blocks us on creating our goals and happiness.
N: So what you’re saying is we can, when you analyze our handwriting, we can make certain changes that would then allow money to flow into our lives and first to have the heath that you want or create the relationships that we want?
T: That’s exactly right. Exactly right (overlaps with Natalie)
N: (overlaps with guest) So, how do we do that? (laughs)
T: I really would like to give, you know, you and your followers a really, really strong powerful tip. To really let go of that past and really start self-empowering for whatever it is, whether it is money-related or goal-related or relationship-related, whatever it is, and that it seems simple in theory but I guarantee you it’s a lot harder consciously to do because of all these habits, fears and years and years of writing habits, it’s just like behavioral habits. So the change is to make all the capital i in your I statements, I am, I will, I have, whatever it is, that I, that capital I is the only letter in the alphabet that represents just you, so it’s really important to have that capital I very strong and made in a right, healthy way. And the healthiest way to make that is one strong, tall, proud vertical line down. No horizontal lines, no loops, no anything, just one straight vertical line down.
N: Wow! Okay, I am adapting that right away. (overlaps with guest) (laughs)
T: Super powerful. (overlaps with Natalie) (laughs)
N: So I know you have worked with a lot of different people. I know that before we jumped on the video, you were talking about how working with the juvenile as well, tell us a little bit about that, what was happening in there?
T: Well, what happened was a friend of mine was the executive director of the Texas Juvenile Probation back in 2006. She was there for many years but in 2006, I had a state representative invites me to ran a research project on the high risk juveniles that were there. And anonymously they were put into that program, of course, they had to be willing participants, and they taken off all other treatments and programs that they had been on for mental health and behavior because none of them had worked, they’ve failed repetitively at these programs. And so for 6 months, I took these juveniles of various range of age, of socio-economic, culture and backgrounds, and crimes, and everything was very, very diverse. And for 6 months, I put them in the program, completely anonymous to me and the state tracked their background for five consecutive, 6 years that they have tracked their background and keep in mind, all of these had, you know, are repeat offenders. They have been through the system several times. After my program, for the continuing 6 years, none of them had re-offended.
T: So, very powerful.
N: Okay. So how do you work with people? Like, what is the work you do with them?
T: Well, I have several certified therapists now, I ran the (7:58) coming up. The program was designed in 1987 and literally, saved my life. So that’s how, it was really just for me, and then it started helping other people in domestic violent situation, then it just expanded from there. So keep in mind in 1987, there was no immediate access to fax machines, no internet for everybody, no email, no cellphone, none of that. So the program was and still is designed and to be working remotely from home. Or some people, don’t feel safe at home, they do it from their office. And there is progress (8:35) involved, vision schedules, there’s a lot of videos, there’s video support series. There’s all of the support work that goes into it, even when it’s a remote situation. So, it’s a really safe way to go to therapy, if you want to say that, therapy even though it’s exactly therapy. It’s just like journaling, everyone knows the power of journaling, but it takes you a step farther by creating new neurological connections in the brain, which is cognitive then the behavioral part. It details all those, I think one of your previous guests (9:11) consciousness, it nails all those layers. So, it’s very powerful.
N: Wow. So you bring up a really important point there. So like changing our handwriting, it actually changes something neurologically for us?
T: Yes. It actually reprograms the brain to make neurological connections for the new person that you’re trying to put in place of the one that you don’t necessarily like. (overlaps with Natalie) anger, they put that away and put in forgiveness, or something opposite, you know, and keep the brain connections there, they just make them healthy and create new ones.
N: Right, because, I mean, not many of us write anymore.
T: I know. That’s the problem. I mean handwriting is slower but it actually has been proven by neurological studies and the scans and brain imaging and stuff that when you actually handwrite, you fire up a lot of the brain activity areas that’s not fired up during typing or keyboarding or texting or anything like that. So there are parts in there that you are activating the brain and second only to language, handwriting uses more brain activity than anything else.
T: It’s very, very powerful.
N: Yeah, I know. I actually personally went through a program just recently called the (10:38) process. It was six and a half days, intense, just, it was probably one of the most transformational things I’ve done for myself. And a lot of it, we were doing a lot of writing. And it was amazing how, once you start writing how things start to flow and memories would come back, because, I don’t handwrite that often because I’m typing all the time. That was actually really insightful. So, how much writing should we be doing? How many hours a day or how many minutes a day would be handwriting to be able to effectively make these changes?
T: I suggest no less than 20 minutes a day and write before you go to bed is best, because it activates the subconscious and when you go to sleep it continues working subconsciously and at the same time, even probably more powerful or just as powerful as helping letter shape. That’s incredibly important. Because if we’re writing only in crappy and unhealthy letter shapes, it doesn’t matter how much writing we do because that’s going to keep that unhealthy stuff locked in us, and that’s why it’s really important to use it with a guided measure such as my program or like my book, any of my books really, but it’s really important to do the healthy letters. I think that’s the power behind it all is really the healthiness of the letters.
N: Wow! I see. We’re getting a little close on time but is it possible for you to share like a transformational story of someone that you’ve worked with over the years?
T: Yeah, absolutely. The one that comes to mind instinctively when you said that was a lady at Oklahoma. She was 45 years old, have gone through 15 years of traditional mental health talk if you will and medication, and she still felt kind of divided, she said, part of me felt it was helping, the rest of me felt as unstable as it was 15 years ago. She had been raped multiple times. She’s been in repetitive abusive situations. She’s being verbally abused and disrespected by her children. It was a huge unhealthy environment she was in. She didn’t have access to go to any other place physically to get to a therapeutic environment. So she came to my program and she graduated on time, which is 6 months, and now she’s been out of program for almost 14 months. She’ll check in every few months and say she’s still doing good. She left the abusive environment. Her kids are living with her dad now to give her some space for healing and visitations they’ve been more respectful to her but at the same time, she’s setting more boundaries where she didn’t set boundaries before. She said she’s finally reached a place where she’s in love with her life and I’ll share that on my fan page and some of that stuff anonymously of course, but I do share some comments on one of my fan pages. So, it’s important to feel empowered. She is just loving her life now and that’s really important. She actually heard about my program from one of my police officer students because it was her brother.
N: Excellent. So, what are some of the benefits people can experience from going through your program?
T: A lot of people as they come to my program have eating addictions. They have eating disorders, if you want to reword that, and food has real control over people. I’ve dealt with that myself in the past and we control what we can’t with our license out of control of the things that we can’t control. And so one of the things we can control it the pen and the paper though and that’s what makes it empowering. So whether we’re dealing with residual effects of trauma such as abuse or bullying or we’re just writing a lot of anger, resentment, guilt or shame, and all that stuff that just keeps beating us up, I call them the words of the itty-bitty shitty committee. Because it’s always talking bad just like these mental bullies and this helps quiet that, you know, not suppress them. When you suppress them, they come back stronger but to quiet them and learn how to interact with them so that they can heal from within and reprogram the brain and come out of it much more stronger and not have the triggers before affect them.
N: Wow, awesome. Like I predicted at the beginning, this was an exceptionally interesting show, Treyce. I’m so glad that I got to have you here on the show and you can share this information. So if people want to find out more about you and your programs where can we send them?
T: writtenescape.com is a website for the handwriting information therapy program itself but then my website is asktreyce.com. And thank you Natalie so much for this opportunity, I’ve been a fan of yours for a very long time.
N: I’m very honored to have met you. Now guys I encourage you to share this video and the interesting information in it. You can do that by clicking on the Facebook and Twitter share buttons on this page. Make sure that you click on the banner on the side, you guys go straight through Treyce’s website from there. Also, download the app if you haven’t done so already. So you can watch the shows on the go, you don’t necessarily have to be in front of your computer anymore. And please leave your email on the box on this page, so I can send you the manifesting with the masters video e-course. It is actually valued at $87 and I would love to send it to you for free. So until next time, remember live large, choose courageously and love without limits. We’ll see you soon.